Mike Bickle of IHOP wants book about Catholic mystics to be “manual for IHOP-KC”

Much of the literature being sold through the International House of Prayer’s online FORERUNNER Bookstore indicates a contemplative influence. One such book being offered is Fire Within, written by Father Thomas Dubay. IHOP founder Mike Bickle states, “I want this book to be the manual for IHOP-KC.” [1]

That is high praise indeed from Mike Bickle. The full title of the book is Fire Within: St. Teresa of Avila, St. John of the Cross, and the Gospel–On Prayer. Incredibly, Bickle’s “manual” is about Catholic, contemplative mystics! Also for sale on the website are books by and about St. John of the Cross, Teresa of Avila, and even Madame Guyon.  

Another book being offered is The Forgotten Desert Mothers, by Laura Swan. Swan writes, “We begin to discard our old ways and go in search of new ways of communicating with God. Our prayer matures and takes on new forms.” [2] And what are these new forms? Swan states, “Centering prayer, lectio divina, Christian meditation, Taize, and the Divine Office are all sought. Prayer moves us toward the simple: often sitting silently before the Divine–in contemplative or centering prayer–is all we feel drawn to do.” [3]

Richard Foster’s Celebration of Discipline is for sale; as is Clowning in Rome and The Way of the Heart by Henri Nouwen.

James Goll’s Dream Language can also be purchased through the IHOP bookstore. According to Product Description, “After centuries of neglect, the church is rediscovering the realm of dreams and visions as a legitimate avenue for receiving divine revelation.” [4]

Goll, too, is a contemplative. In his study guide on Consecrated Contemplative Prayer, Goll writes, “I wish to express thanks to our Lord for the writings of Richard Foster.” [5]

I am not trying to aggravate those who support IHOP, but is it possible Bickle’s…odd…interpretation of certain Bible passages is the result of contemplative prayer?  Make no mistake: contemplative practices can change–or determine–a person’s theology.

In an audio message, Mike Bickle apparently voiced great enthusiasm for contemplative prayer. Jocelyn Andersen has transcribed some of what was said, which you can find HERE. Kim Olsen of Discernit has reproduced IHOP’s promotion of contemplative prayer HERE. Perhaps it is not surprising that these have vanished from the web but can still be examined because of the diligence of these two saints.

One last thing: If you are wondering what contemplative prayer is, here is a link to an excellent article, What Is Spiritual Formation? READ

 We are in a war. Through contemplative practices a false christ–many false christs, actually–have great opportunity to deceive. 

Latest related article: Mike Bickle of IHOP-KC instructs followers on contemplative prayer: click_HERE

 Endnotes:

1. https://store.ihopkc.org/fire-within-(8987026310:898702631:9780898702637)/dp/83 [Go to IHOP-KC Forerunner Bookstore and type in: Fire Within)

2. Laura Swan, The Forgotten Desert Mothers, pg. 160   HERE

3. Ibid., pg. 160

4. http://store.ihopkc.org/store/product/6275/Dream-Language/

5. http://www.encountersnetwork.com/pdf/free_downloads/contemplative_prayer. pdf

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  1. It is Eastern/New Age meditation covered in Christian terminology,

  2. Interesting that the bible says that the kingdom of heaven is inside of you. Luke 17:21. The Greek word literally means inside or within, which goes with the passage John 7:37
    On the last day of the feast, the great day, Jesus stood up and cried out, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to me and drink. 38Whoever believes in me, asf the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’” 39Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive, for as yet the Spirit had not been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

    Notice It says the Holy Spirit will flow out of those who believe in Jesus, i.e. us, Christians.

    This aligns with all the versus that say the fullness of deity dwells in Christ who dwells in us.

    Christian contemplation is focusing on the union between the person praying and Christ. It is looking and meditating on Christ inside of us, and heaven inside of us, rather than just thinking God and heaven are far away, and unreachable. It is focusing on the nearness of Christ.
    It helps to shut down the swirling thoughts, and distractions that life can bring, and to bring out attention on Christ.

  3. Hi Michelle,
    I went to a Catholic high school, and have had many a Catholic friend. I most certainly am not denigrating Catholics. Many Catholics however are deep into contemplative prayer, i.e. anti-biblical meditation, which is spiritually deceptive. The Catholic Church does not teach the path to Salvation, which means that millions who follow the teachings of Catholicism are bound for eternal hell. (John 14:6, Eph. 2:8-9)

    So when are we going to be kind enough to speak the truth to these people? Or do you not understand the difference between what the Bible teaches and what the Catholic Church teaches?

    And you are right, the Catholics have stayed strong and true in terms of protecting the unborn. But what about them, Michelle. What about their eternal souls? I am not saying some Catholics are not saved–but if so, it is in spite of the Catholic church.

    I know this is long, but can you please read it? Here is a great explanation from Gotquestions.org:

    The most crucial problem with the Roman Catholic Church is its belief that faith alone in Christ is not sufficient for salvation. The Bible clearly and consistently states that receiving Jesus Christ as Savior, by grace through faith, grants salvation (John 1:12; 3:16,18,36; Acts 16:31; Romans 10:9-10,13; Ephesians 2:8-9). The Roman Catholic Church rejects this. The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is that a person must believe in Jesus Christ AND be baptized AND receive the Eucharist along with the other sacraments AND obey the decrees of the Roman Catholic Church AND perform meritorious works AND not die with any mortal sins AND etc., etc., etc. Catholic divergence from the Bible on this most crucial of issues, salvation, means that yes, Catholicism is a false religion. If a person believes what the Catholic Church officially teaches, he/she will not be saved. Any claim that works or rituals must be added to faith in order for salvation to be achieved is a claim that Jesus’ death was not sufficient to fully purchase our salvation.

    http://www.gotquestions.org/catholicism.html

  4. It’s interesting how this thread has focused on the denegration of the Catholic faith. I am an evangelical, but the Catholic Church has held the line on pro-life, anti-abortion efforts for decades while the Protestant church has been getting IUDs and handing out birth control like it’s candy. Sorry, but my interpretation of the gospel is not the “one way.” Jesus is the way, truth and the life. And life has obviously not been something we have excelled in all these years. Did you know birth control was not acceptable in the Protestant church until the 1930′s. Margaret Sanger and her like have duped millions. We cannot throw the baby out with the bath water. Jesus, unite us…Christ’s prayer for the believers comes to mind when reading this post. My faith is informed by Catholics and Protestants, but my salvation is firmly planted on the Rock and the Word of God alone.

  5. I just published a book that deals with this subject. It is called The Polluted Church: From Rome to Kansas City. It is available for Kindle, Nook, and Apple devices right now. Print version is coming soon. You might find it interesting.

    God bless,

    Pastor Dean Odle

  6. I just returned, again, from IHOPkc. There are some good people there….but I call it, as a state of mind….HIGH SPIRITUALITY/COLD LOVE.

    Mike Bickle , a former Catholic, left the Catholic church upon his Salvation in the early 70s, but he never left the mystics. He saw their devotion as stellar, in comparison with the hum-drum counterparts of the families of Protestism that had to live in the non-spiritual world of making a living, teenagers and weakness.

    He heartily embraced the sub-doctrines of Catholicism, that imply that a “Sacrificial Life” is the most spiritual, and that the more sacrificial the better, and more spiritual.

    In effect, Mike has established a neo-monastic system, and a pay as you go priesthood. Upon entering IHOP you are taught systematically to embrace the contemplative…which is always a morph of the Eastern Transcendentalism methods of the far east, established as a World religion 3500 years before Christ.. and Rome. [appx,]….while you must pay to learn it, while committing yourself to 50 hours a week, through “sacred oaths”…in which you actually SIGN a contract to pray or worship in the prayer room.

    Two Babylons; Papal Worship [ Alexander Hislop ] is still the finest material on the ancient origins of the RCC,,,outlining the religious worship practices, and names of their demons.

    He noted that over a hundred of these actual devils that were worshipped in the ancient Babylonian Satanism of old, and worshipped ON A PARTICULAR DAY!!….WERE ACTUALLY WORSHIPPED IN THE RCC ON THAT ONE AND SAME EXACT DAY…AS “SAINTS”…ON THAT VERY DAY!…AND SOME STILL ARE!

    Their practices are yet the same, and “Contemplative” is but the ancient art of Transcendental Meditation used by the Guru’s of India today, and the h hoards of Bhuddists today to achieve KUNDALINI awakening, and ultra-consciousness today..and to ascend up the Chakras…[ levels ].

    .It was fearfully devilish then, as it is now…and this begins the process of becoming reprobate…of becoming seared .

    All holy prayer is simply outward, by faith, to that throne where Jesus sits at the right hand of God, ever making intercession for us….not peering inwardly into the corrupt resources of a fallen mind. If you believe that, you might just find it…and beware…when you do, it may be too late. Madame Guyon quips: “I looked within, and there I found you , the christ that was always there.” This is the spiritual food IHOP is feeding the seeking young. Thank you very much for all of the links …and especially those deleted at IHOP U..They are indicting and vividly expose the reality of the corruption…Tom

  7. Needed to share this…I have friends who have bought into this….

  8. I am sure this article is written to be helpful and to protect believers but I suggest that you spend a week in the IHOP-KC prayer room before taking pieces of information and creating assumptions. Mike Bickle is solidly founded in scripture. Anyone that has spent time there and who has listened any length of time to Mike’s teaching would find this almost funny.

  9. @Tom..
    “meditating on all of His works” does not mean emptying your mind so that you enter into an altered state of consciousness. We are to pray with our minds, not empty them out so that demons can be reached through these altered states, which is what Buddhists do.

    Contemplative prayer or centering prayer begins with the person “focusing” on a statue, a word, a mantra (even if it’s the word Jesus) and slips into an altered state. This is not prayer by invoking the Holy Spirit, but entering a different spiritual world all together.

    Emerging, emerging, the church goes. The sheep and the goats being separated. As a former Catholic, I can see it all quickly approaching now.

  10. At the time of Christ their were 1300 satanic worship temples in Rome…the anointed vessel of Babylon herself. Eventually, this system was incorporated symbollicaly, yet intrinsically into what we know today as the Roman Catholic [UNIVERSAL ] Church.

    Mike Bickle believes, passionately, that the Roman Mystics were the carriers of the true prophetic devotion….the SACRIFICIAL worship as entailed in the monastic order
    of the ancient cloisters. They became his hero’s very early on, and then logically, a true form of worship in their pattern MUST follow….to attain faithfullness. IHOP was always the goal.

    There was real spiritual power in these devotees, and ALL of them practiced Transcendental Meditation, as is done in Indian Hindi temples today, Tibetan Bhuddism, and various other Eastern Nations and dark colonies of this Mystic Babylon. It is satanic.

    Chanting Mantras, and guided imagery of extreme focus to trance, have always been the Universal loadstone that threads these evil mystic practices together. This is taught as foundational prayer teaching at IHOP today….and is stumbling multitudes as it has launched Nationally and worldwide as the truth. It is not; It is Babylonian, satanic deception. Mike recruits the young, for they are susceptable. This is sad.

  11. Tom,
    That is an excellent question. Biblical meditation never has to do with entering the silenceof the meditative state. Psalm 143:5 speaks of meditating on His works; of musing on the work of His hands. There is thinkning, reflecting, pondering going on. Not so with the meditative state known as contemplative prayer. Christians have essentially adopted new age/Eastern meditation, and substituted a Christianese word or phrase as the mantra. This article explains a lot.

    If you want to investigate further, go to Lighthouse Trails–they saw this coming over a decade ago and started warning people. http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=104

    Check this out, as well: http://www.earnestlycontend.com/cp.html

    You ask a good question and I hope this helps.

  12. I’ve noticed a growing trend among some modern Christians to regard anything “contemplative” as somehow automatically bad.

    How, then, do you explain Psalm 143:5?

  13. Mkayla,
    I didn’t see this coming. I have written primarily about AA, some about The Shack, and increasingly, about contemplative prayer. But this…political/religious fusion, it is amazing.

  14. I watched part of a video yesterday of Bickle calling Oprah the antiChrist! Considering everything the man does is false, against Christ, I wonder where that leaves him. I’d say they’re ’bout 2 peas in a pod.

    When theology is based on experience, a zip into other religions wouldn’t be so far off. Still, it shakes me because I never would have guessed things would have come together in this way. These people are dangerous to the faith because of their false teachings and great influence; to America because of their influence in the political joining with the NAR, and to real Christians because the public sees us as one. We are not. I would not want to be in their shoes before the throne.

  15. No big surprise here. Even some Southern Baptists have gone ‘Catholic’ in the very same way, embracing mystical practices. Big named ‘Baptist Superstars’ are quietly slipping mystical practices into their ‘show’!

    Unsuspecting sheep eat it up too, they have not idea that they are being led to the Roman Catholic Church.


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