More on discerning the value and motives of watchbloggers

“Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord GOD,
“When I will send a famine on the land,
Not a famine for bread or a thirst for water,
But rather for hearing the words of the LORD. (Amos 8:11)

The Marsha West article that Pearl commented on is Christian “watchbloggers” under fire, and can be found here. I mistakenly posted a different Marsha West article.

West notes that Christian watchblogger sites “must hold to all the essentials of the Christian faith; secondly, must fall within the pale of orthodoxy; thirdly, must teach sound doctrine; fourthly, must confront false teaching head on.”

I am beginning to understand that discernment sites are valuable, and necessary, but limited. Do we really reach the people sitting in the pews? I would have to say no. One encouraging development in this are the short booklet tracts that Lighthouse Trails has been publishing. These are fairly inexpensive and a concerned Christian can hand them out at will.

If the visible church studied the Word of God as we are instructed to do, there would be little need for discernment sites.

Here is a portion of an email I received from a former blogger:

“I am not sure I would even call discernment a ‘ministry’. Yes, mature Christians are all called to discern good from evil, but any ministry we may have is actually the Lord’s, and the proof of any ministry is that it will point to Christ and bear fruit. Jesus didn’t mince words and He did call out the false teachers, as did the apostles, but another aspect of ministry is that the work of the Holy Spirit always points to Christ. A blog can point out error and that is helpful and necessary, as not everyone has time to research facts, but if it lacks compassion and does not present the gospel truth in love, it is a scorching wind. And yes, many such blogs are simply nasty gossip sources, their administrators having lost sight of the very purpose for discernment.” (bold mine)

The author of the email pointed to Philippians 1:9-11 as “a good guide for the purpose of discernment.”

According to Philippians 1:9-11, And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in real knowledge and all discernment, so that you may approve the things that are excellent, in order to be sincere and blameless until the day of Christ; having been filled with the fruit of righteousness which comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.

There is nothing wrong with strong warnings. They are necessary. There is nothing wrong with righteous anger. But unnecessary insults, unverified information, gossip, a mean spirit, these are things we will have to answer for, and we serve a holy God.
I preach to myself.

“Does the Bible really say we’re not to judge?” by Marsha West

mywordlikefire:

More on discernment, naming names, watchmen on the wall by Marsha West. This, like the previous post from Pearl, is from a while ago.

Originally posted on My Word Like Fire:

Some professing Christians become infuriated when a “watchblogger” has the chutzpah to report on a false teacher by name, as if naming names is unbiblical. High-profile leaders and bloggers who mention heretics by name are often accused of demonizing or judging them.

For example, when I expose Rick Warren’s latest effort to unite with globalists,Catholics, Muslims, New Age/New Thought occultists, and when I examine his health plan and his penchant for twisting Scripture (he often uses it as a tool to cover his own ideas with a pretense of divine authority), complaints come pouring in by the truck load. Many of his defenders write to set me straight on what Scripture says about “judging him.” Others scold me for not giving him credit for all the good he has done, as if doing good deeds, meeting felt needs and ignoring doctrine and creeds is biblical.

Invariably someone…

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“Concerning Watchbloggers” by Pearl

mywordlikefire:

On the subject of watchbloggers, my friend Pearl wrote this some time ago, and it seems it is more timely than ever. She no longer blogs at Be Thus Minded.

Originally posted on My Word Like Fire:

Pearl, the author of the uplifting blog, Be Thus Minded, has some thoughtful comments about Marsha West’s article on watchbloggers, which is the next article down.   Pearl’s blog:   HERE

Another great article by Marsha West. She touches upon many, many good points with which I totally agree. I have to say, though, that I can understand a germ of what Tim Challies is saying (and I’ve never read his stuff nor visited his blog either). Personally, I have been frustrated by what I consider a tremendous imbalance in the Body of Christ, as represented in blogland. It seems every one wants to be a watchman on the wall. I often wonder, who is feeding the sheep within the walls? Let’s face it: gossip is tantalizing, especially in the church where we should be casting off this fleshly tendency, but manage to justify a whole lot of it by calling it…

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“The Absurd is Flooding…Into Generic Evangelical Churches” by Dr. Orrel Steinkamp (Herescope)

[The following article is from Herescope, and is written by Dr. Orrel Steinkamp, who was one of the very first to warn the church about the New Apostolic Reformation. If you follow the link to Herescope at the end, you will see Steinkamp deals with Bill Johnson of Bethel Redding, Kim Clement and other false teachers, many of whom have entered homes and hearts of senior saints via television broadcasts.]

According to Dr. Steinkamp:

 

To illustrate this I draw attention to a real but an unnamed historical Pentecostal family tree Sunday school class. This class meets in a historic church in the USA and is filled with elderly believers. These believers have all   been soundly converted from theologically dead mainline churches that for decades have not  preached the Gospel, and also some from a Roman Catholic upbringing. 

These elderly saints all have the scars and experience to prove their hard won evangelical   status. But with the onrush of postmodern Christianity via the evangelical media this Sunday school class also exhibits the “sloppy agape” of the postmodern evangelical church. 

But the absurdity comes in by off-the-cuff remarks in this class that betray the absurdity of false prophecies which are now being accepted, without even a second thought or concern. A class member talking about most any subject will interject that they heard a (proven) false prophet say this or that on TV. 

This reveals that a wide range of prophetic voices are being accepted and consumed by these evangelical veterans, who are accepting these words (claimed to be from the Lord Himself) that have NO biblical reference point whatsoever. Only someone who follows the TV scene would even know who these personages are, let alone their steady stream of imaginary false prophesies.[1]

Click here to read the rest of this Herescope article

Thoughts on discernment ministries

But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word. (Isaiah 66:2) 

As the deer pants for the water brooks, So my soul pants for You, O God. (Psalm 42:1)

So, it may be that discernment ministries are now simply preaching to the choir. The time of warning may be, for all intents and purposes, over. We may be that far along in the…separation that is taking place. Yeah, I know. Plenty out there to warn about, that’s for sure.

Some of us have lost our way. Some (discernment ministries) are unnecessarily insulting, or angry. It is too easy to call our fleshly anger “righteous anger.”

Some of us are not always accurate in what we write.

We need to ask ourselves just why do we do what we do? Are we called to be a watchman? Or has this been our own idea?

I include myself in consideration of every one of these comments and questions.

Published in: on August 11, 2015 at 12:41 pm  Comments (9)  
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A Look at Dreams and Visions

mywordlikefire:

Highly recommended.

Originally posted on m'kayla's korner:

I wanted to take a closer look at what the bible has to say in the areas of dreams and visions. These experiences have become quite popular over the years with many people  who claim their dreams are from God. Others claim the ability to interpret the dreams and produce many resources and conduct expensive classes to teach the ability to do the same.  Some will go so far as to provide impartations at the conclusion of classes through the laying on of hands so that the attendees will receive the gift of dreams and visions with the ability to interpret same.

I have always been a big dreamer. I dream almost every night and some of those dreams seem to go on for long periods of time. They are filled with all sorts of things, people, some living, some not, places, animals, colors, probably much like you dream. Some…

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A kid and Planned Parenthood

Some kids don’t have any questions because they are in parts and pieces.

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Feel The Relevance

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(Truthinator strikes again! Although recently retired, you can still find his stuff on Facebook.)

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M’Kayla exposes the healing rooms and false prophetic on radio today

M’kayla of M’Kayla’s Korner will be on the radio today. In just a few hours from now, in fact. M’Kayla says:

I will be talking with Susan Puzio blog talk radio on Saturday, August 1 at 1PM Eastern Time. We will be discussing my involvement with the healing rooms and the false prophetic. During this time with Susan I plan to get more into the topic of dreams and visions since I haven’t gone into that topic much.

Here is the link, which will also be archived for later listening.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/prophetic-news/2015/08/01/dream-interpretations-of-john-paul-jackson-and-false-movements-mkayla-kelly

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