Want information on Mike Bickle and International House of Prayer?

Many, many people are interested in what is happening at Bethel Redding and International House of Prayer. Here is a link to Apostasy Watch, where information has been gathered about Mike Bickle and IHOP-KC. You will find contemplative and Catholic influence, an incorrect view of endtimes, and much more. LINK:
Apostasy Watch

Also, for extremely thorough analysis of what IHOP-KC teaches, go to Herescope and Herescope

So..please explain contemplative prayer???

In his chapter, Contemplative Prayer, the New Age, and Psalm 46:10, Warren B. Smith, author of “Another Jesus” Calling, writes, “What I came to realize years ago was that the [contemplative/meditative] silence allowed deceptive spirits to establish contact with those of us who were naive and undiscerning ‘listeners.'” (p. 80)

Smith was involved with the New Age, and thus speaks from personal experience.

Smith continues, “The conditions of stillness, openness, and receptivity were ideal for deceptive spirits to inject ungodly thoughts and understandings into out minds.” (pp. 80-81)

Alcoholics Anonymous (read article), the International House of Prayer, and the Emergent Church have been influenced or shaped by contemplative prayer. So have many other organizations and individuals.

Where else can this practice be found? Well, contemplative prayer continues to spread through the Body of Christ. The author of “Another Jesus” Calling notes, “And now the same thing is going on in the church which sees no need to test the spirits.” (pg.81)

Here, by S.E. Ray, is a well researched and readable article about this form of anti-biblical meditation.  Please excuse the long link line, as my own computer is down and this library version is too complex for my simple mind. LINK:  http://www.discerningtruth.org/showthread.php?182-Contemplative-Prayer-Movement-and-Its-Origin&s=9589b162a7ec0c58236657071484dbd0

Explaining contemplative prayer

Why is IHOP-KC’s obsession with contemplative prayer so dangerous? Of course, it is not just Mike Bickle’s organization that is so involved with this deceptive practice. Not by a long shot.

Lighthouse Trails has just released a booklet/tract, So You Want to Practice “Good” Contemplative Prayer…What’s Wrong With That?

Written by Lynn Lusby Pratt, this offers a clear and concise definition and explanation. If you have friends in the International House of Prayer, or in A.A. and practicing Step 11, or in a mainstream church–or anywhere else where this anti-biblical meditation can be found–this is a valuable resource.

This booklet/tract is sold individually, or in multiples.

If you want to read it, here is the Link.

IHOP-KC’s Stephen Venable no longer presenting “Lingering” at Linger Conference

Stephen Venable, the IHOP-KC leader who advocates contemplative prayer, is no longer scheduled to speak on “Lingering” at the Linger Conference.

His Saturday morning time of 8-9 a.m. is now listed as an “Extra Optional Session,” with the subject now “The Glory of Jesus and a Vision for Prayer.”

http://www.lingerconference.com/schedule/

Reformed contemplative at Liberate 2014/One Way Love Conference

“One of the ways I have found helpful in moving into the ‘other world’ is a technique called centering prayer (You might want to read M. Basil Pennington’s book on the subject, Centering Prayer. I don’t agree with the entire book, but…”)***

The above quote is from Approaching God: Accepting The Invitation To Stand In The Presence Of  God, pg. 117, by Steve Brown, one of the scheduled headliners for the Liberate 2014/One Way Love Conference at Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church, Feb. 20-23.

One Way Love is also the title of the new book by Coral Ridge Pastor Tully Tchividjian.

“On the other side of the silence, I encountered the God who is really there. It took a long time to still the other voices in my mind, a long time to be quiet, but he did come.” —From Approaching God, pg. 6, by Steve Brown

“One of the reasons most people who go to a deeper level of prayer have a confessor, spiritual director or companion is to make sure they don’t go off the deep end and wander into spiritual territory they know nothing about.” —From Approaching God, pg. 104, by Steve Brown.

The onslaught continues. As we see from the above quotes by Steve Brown, who as noted will be speaking at the Liberate 2014/One Way Love Conference at Tully Tchvidjian’s church in February, contemplative influence is already in the Reformed Camp.

Perhaps it has been there far longer than most of us have realized. Steve Brown taught at Reformed Theological Seminary for almost twenty years. [1] One of the courses he taught was APPROACHING GOD: The Pastor’s Contemplative Life.

How many students were influenced by this class? The Reading List for the class is a contemplative-palooza: Richard Foster, Brennan Manning, Philip Yancey, Gerald May, and the class is further encouraged to read Henri Nouwen. [2]

As it turns out, there are other  RTS contemplative related courses besides Brown’s. [3]

RTS is listed as Partner of the Liberate 2014/One Way Love Conference. [4]

I want to stress this is not an attack on Brown, or RTS, or on the conference. But contemplative prayer changes people, dulls, affects, or determines theology. It is not of Christ. We need to continue warning people.

Believers might want to take a hard look at the Strange Fire happening to many Reformed people.

Latest: Will Pastor Tchividjian allow contemplative speaker at conference hosted by Coral Ridge Presbyterian?

 

Endnotes:

1. http://www.rts.edu/seminary/faculty/bio.aspx?id=15

2. http://www.rts.edu/Site/Academics/Docs/Syllabi/Orlando/2005/2005-03-2DME838-Approaching_God.pdf

3. http://www.rts.edu/Search.aspx?q=contemplative&cof=FORID:11&cx=010126988748845829492:mqc289hudvi

4. http://2014.liberatenet.org/

*** I used books.google for my quotes of Approaching God, and the quote just stops because the next page is not featured.

click here for Approaching God on books.google

“Understanding Mantra Meditation and Altered States” by Ray Yungen

Please view these videos where Linger Conference speaker and IHOP-KC teacher Stephen Venable teaches or promotes mantra meditation/centering/contemplative prayer, and then read the following Ray Yungen article about anti-biblical meditation. What Stephen Venable and others teach at IHOP-KC is the same as New Age meditation, only it is disguised with Christianese terminology….

IHOP-KC’s Stephen Venable teaches mantra meditation/centering/contemplative prayer: read and watch video

IHOP-KC short contemplative prayer class promotional Video

According to Ray Yungen:

“The meditation most of us are familiar with involves a deep, continuous thinking about something. But New Age meditation does just the opposite. It involves ridding oneself of all thoughts in order to still the mind by putting it in the equivalent of pause or neutral. A comparison would be that of turning a fast-moving stream into a still pond. When meditation is employed by damming the free flow of thinking, it holds back active thought and causes a shift in consciousness. This condition is not to be confused with daydreaming, where the mind dwells on a subject. New Age meditation works as a holding mechanism until the mind becomes thoughtless, empty and silent.”

Yungen continues, “The two most common methods used to induce this thoughtless state are breathing exercises, where attention is focused on the breath, and a mantra, which is a repeated word or phrase. The basic process is to focus and maintain concentration without thinking about what you are focusing on. Repetition on the focused object is what triggers the blank mind. Since mantras are central to New Age meditation, it is important to understand a proper definition of the word. The translation from Sanskrit is man,meaning to think and tra, meaning to be liberated from. Thus, the word literally means to escape from thought. By repeating the mantra, either out loud or silently, the word or phrase begins to lose any meaning it once had. The conscious thinking process is gradually tuned out until an altered state of consciousness is achieved. But this silence is not the final objective; its attainment is only a means to an end.” continue reading article

Stephen Venable of IHOP-KC promotes centering prayer

So, perhaps this video demonstrates what Stephen Venable of IHOP-KC will teach the Linger Conference attendees. It is an anti-biblical meditative practice, and Venable taught this during two services at the IHOP-KC Forerunners Christian Fellowship in 2013.

At 53:48 in the video, Venable says this meditation “consists of speaking and singing small biblical phrases, very slowly in the context of love and adoration…speaking and singing small biblical phrases–biblical, that’s important–and of course the overflow of your own heart…I mean biblical truth…very slowly, in the context of love and adoration…”

This is known as a centering prayer, where the repetitive use of a word of phrase empties the mind of all thought. In this mental stillness, this silence, all sorts of incredible, wonderful (and deceptive) experiences can occur. This practice can weaken or even change one’s theology.

But the (mostly) young people listening to Venable in this video don’t know that.

In true biblical meditation, the brain remains active as the Word of God is read and pondered. The goal is never to cease thinking so as to enter the silence, but to ruminate upon His Word.

At 55:10 in the video, Venable speaks of “slowing down…embracing the weakness outwardly of singing and speaking small phrases to a man who we can’t see but who lives in the depths of us by His Spirit…”

Venable does the classic Christian contemplative practice of convincing his listeners that reading the Bible, going to meetings etc. isn’t enough to “enter into the true knowledge of who He is.” It takes meditation, claims Venable.

The beginning of this video skips a bit. It is not necessary to watch the whole video, but it would be valuable to start at about the 40 minute mark and watch the remaining 21 minutes. There is much more that could be said, and probably needs to be said.

Related: http://mywordlikefire.com/2014/01/17/linger-conference-speaker-stephen-venable-teaches-ihop-contemplative-class/

IHOP contemplative Stephen Venable joins John Piper at Linger Conference

Describing A life of communion with God, the class Stephen Venable teaches for the International House of Prayer, the reviewer states, “Until we give ourselves in abandonment to God, we will not find satisfaction. The contemplatives of old were beacons of light, walking in freedom from the things of this world; Stephen traces the development of contemplative prayer and links it to our high calling of encountering the living God.” [1] (Bold mine)

Stephen Venable is one of many IHOP leaders who advocate contemplative prayer.

Venable will be joining John Piper, Matt Chandler, Tully Tchividjian and others at the Linger Conference, scheduled for Feb. 14-15, 2014. As we have seen with Francis Chan’s endorsement of Mike Bickle, this can only serve to increase acceptance of IHOP theology.  (Link)

Endnotes:

1. IHOP-KC Blog Product Review  of Stephen Venable’s A life of communion with God class  http://blog.ihop.org/category/product-reviews/

Francis Chan as IHOP-KC’s public relations agent?

How often will IHOP-KC use Francis Chan’s words from the Onething Conference 2013 for recruitment or public relation purposes?

In this video, The Deception of the International House of Prayer, we are given a good look at IHOP’s disturbing associations and practices.

Send this to someone.

(Video by Psalm86 Youtube Channel)

Published in: on January 8, 2014 at 11:58 am  Comments (9)  
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Contemplating Francis Chan, IHOP-KC, and Alcoholics Anonymous

By speaking at Onething 2013, Francis Chan has provided IHOP-KC with some powerful public relations. [1] Few realize how much of Mike Bickle’s organization is influenced by contemplative prayer practices. [2]

So it is with Alcoholics Anonymous. While many believe it has a Christian base, A.A.’s spiritual roots are contemplative (anti-biblical meditation), spiritualism, and New Thought. These roots are downplayed, misrepresented, or flat out ignored, but this denial is necessary if one wants to portray A.A. and the twelve steps as Christian or biblical.

Let’s say it another way: Neither Alcoholics Anonymous or the twelve steps came from Christ, or from the mind of man. They are demonic in origin, and their purpose is to point the lost away from Christ, and to water down the theology of Christians who attend A.A. and other twelve step groups.

When “recovery” is confused with sanctification, we are in trouble–so, yes, we are in trouble.

It would be good if Christians as well known as Francis Chan, and regular folks like us, would expose anti-biblical organizations rather than promoting them.

Here are four articles dealing with the real roots of Alcoholics Anonymous and the twelve steps:

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Endnotes:

1. http://mywordlikefire.com/2013/12/31/francis-chan-endorses-ihop-mike-bickle/

2. http://mywordlikefire.com/2011/07/29/mike-bickle-of-ihop-wants-book-about-catholic-mystics-to-be-manual-for-ihop-kc/

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