A Study Of The Profane

According to author Susan Cheever,  [A.A. co-founder] Dr. Bob “began every morning with meditation and prayer and twenty minutes of Bible study. Like [A.A. co-founder] Bill, Bob believed in paranormal possibility, and the two men spent time ‘spooking,’ invoking spirits of the dead.”[1]

Click here for the A.A. co-founders…


1. Susan Cheever, My Name Is Bill, pg. 197

More “queer” slurs from Dick B., author of ‘The Good Book and the Big Book’

Dick B. is the author of numerous books on the alleged Christian roots of Alcoholics Anonymous. He is also the author of many comments mocking my testimony. And here is my testimony: Happy hell-bound homosexuals

“And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony…” (Revelation 12:11)

So, here’s another batch of “queer” insults aimed at me by Dick B., which I generally receive after posting articles refuting A.A.’s alleged Christian roots. There are many more of these “queer” slurs that Dick B. has sent to My Word Like Fire. ***

According to Dick B:

1. The thousands of Christians and other believers who help alcoholics and addicts do swallow a bit of the queer gospel from time to time. (1/23/13) (bold mine)

2. We’ve yet to see the queer seer relate the facts about what early AAs in Akron’s Christian Fellowship really did. (1/22/14) (bold mine)

3. Take the queer reasoning of just one “reformed” writer who talks about his word like fire. (1/23/13) (bold mine)

4. Some of these days, this queer writing will be replaced when people look at and understand Romans 8. It is not what Christians do. (7/26/12) (bold mine)

5. More queer comments from John L. (6/11/12) (bold mine)

6.  But not for this queer continued search for all faults in all people in all parts of the spectrum–never pausing once to look in the mirror and shudder. Queer indeed. (6/11/2012) (bold mine)

Obviously, Dick B. is very angry. His years of scholarship have been called into question, and people no longer automatically receive his claims as valid. So he does what many of us do when we cannot answer with truth or facts–we go back to name calling.

For me, this has been Romans 8:28 in action. For a long time Dick B.’s taunts would evoke shame and fear. Now, at last, I just don’t care. It is back to warning Christians about A.A.

For more background: Related article ***

Why Bill Wilson picked a pagan symbol for A.A.

The cross, of course, was never an option. Read

A.A. co-founder Bill Wilson “felt it would be unwise to have an allegiance to any one religious sect. He felt A.A.’s usefulness was worldwide, and contained spiritual principles that members of any and every religion could accept, including the Eastern religions.”(PASS IT ON, pg. 283)**

Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness; or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? (2 Corinthians 6:14-15) 

Where did the A.A. symbol come from? Why did A.A. co-founder Bill Wilson choose the triangle within the circle?

In Alcoholics Anonymous Comes Of Age, he writes, “That we have chosen this symbol is perhaps no mere accident. The priests and seers of antiquity regarded the circle enclosing the triangle as a means of warding off spirits of evil, and AA’s circle of Recovery, Unity, and Service has certainly meant all that to us and much more.” (Alcoholics Anonymous Comes Of Age, pg.139, Bold mine)

Francis Hartigan was the secretary for Lois Wilson, Bill’s wife, for thirteen years. He had many conversations with Lois about Bill. He writes, “[A.A. co-founder Bill Wilson’s] belief in God might have become unshakeable, but he could never embrace any theology or even the divinity of Jesus, and he went to his grave unable to give his own personal idea of God much definition. In this sense, he was never very far removed from the unbelievers.” (Bill W. by Francis Hartigan, pg. 123, Bold mine)

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. (1 John 4:1)

** PASS IT ON is the official A.A. biography of co-founder Bill Wilson

The A.A. history articles:

Seances, Spirits, and 12 Steps: READ

Alcoholics Anonymous Co-Founders Were Not Christians: READ

Early A.A. Heresy: READ

A.A. Co-founder’s Meditation, Visualization: READ

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Great, very short, H.A. Ironside biography

[The following biography of H.A. Ironside can be found on www.wholesomewords.org . The author is Ed Reese. This can be read in one sitting, and it is great.]

The biography begins:

“Ironside was one of the greatest Bible teachers the world has ever known. For some 50 years he went up and down America teaching and preaching the Word of God. He was the ultimate in his field. Coupled with this was his successful ministry as pastor of Moody Church from 1930 to 1948 which made him the most known Christian leader of his era, outside of Billy Sunday whose funeral he preached. He was affectionately known as ‘the archbishop of Fundamentalism.’

“John and Sophia (Stafford) Ironside were a godly couple with his occupation being that of a bank teller. They were both tremendous soul-winners. The father spent evenings at street meetings, in halls and in theaters, and on Sundays held services in the park. His mother likewise testified everywhere. They were identified with the Plymouth Brethren. The father was known as “The Eternity Man,” because every time he met someone he asked them, “Where will you spend eternity?” In the providence of God this amazing soul-winner died at age 27 from typhoid when Henry was two years old.

“Henry’s birth was almost a casualty. The child was thought to be dead, so attention was given to the dangerously ill mother.” Click here for rest of biography: http://www.wholesomewords.org/biography/bioironside.html

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Correcting those “A.A.’s Christian roots” claims

Okay, you make the call: Read article

A.A.’s co-founder and the ouija board

Describing it as “the fairly usual experience,” A.A. co-founder Bill Wilson states:

“The ouija board got moving in earnest. What followed was the fairly usual experience—it was a strange mélange of Aristotle, St. Francis, diverse archangels with odd names, deceased friends—some in purgatory and others doing nicely, thank you! There were malign and mischievious ones of all descriptions, telling of vices quite beyond my ken, even as former alcoholics. Then, the seemingly virtuous entities would elbow them out with messages of comfort, information, advice—and sometimes just sheer nonsense.” (Pass It On, pg. 278) (bold mine)

Related: Seances, spirits, and 12 steps

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A.A.’s real spiritual roots

A little leaven… (1 Corinthians 5:6)

It is well known that Alcoholics Anonymous co-founders Bill Wilson and Dr. Bob Smith reached out to the spirit world through seances and the like. But there was also a contemplative (meditative) factor.

Contemplative practices, in fact, have been inherent in Alcoholics Anonymous from its inception. A.A. co-founders Bill Wilson and Dr. Bob Smith attended, together and separately, Frank Buchman’s neo-evangelical Oxford Group in the 1930s. Pastor H.A. Ironside, who preached during the 1930s and 1940s, was familiar with the Oxford Group in his own city. He had grave concerns about its meditative practices:

“Each member is urged … to sit quietly with the mind emptied of every thought … waiting for God to say something to them…. Sometimes they tell me nothing happens, at other times the most amazing things come. Tested by the Word of God, many of these things are unscriptural. They lay themselves open for demons to communicate their blasphemous thoughts to them.” [1] (Bold and italics mine)

According to A.A. historian Glenn C., “In A.A. circles however, ‘meditation’ also took on some of the characteristics of what the Oxford Group called ‘having a morning quiet time.’ So A.A. members might in fact, not only read and think about what the reading for the day said in their meditational book, but also spend a short time blanking out all their conscious thoughts and just remaining still and quiet in God’s presence, while waiting for God’s guidance to give them instructions for the day. [2] (Bold mine) continue reading article

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New Age fundamentalist passages in A.A.’s “Big Book”

In Alcoholics Anonymous theology, anything and everything can be “god.” Yet, paradoxically, A.A. takes key passages of How It Works from the A.A. Big Book (the A.A. “bible”) literally. These passages may as well have been chiseled in stone. Because of this, Alcoholics Anonymous can be strangely–but accurately–described as a fundamentalist New Age religion.

This is what is read to alcoholics at the beginning of every single meeting:

“Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path. Those who do not recover are people who cannot or will not completely give themselves to this simple program, usually men and women who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves. There are such unfortunates. They are not at fault; they seem to have been born that way.” (bold mine)

How It Works goes on to note, “We thought we could find an easier, softer way. But we could not.”

These two fundamentalist passages thus serve to lock alcoholics into the A.A. system, while also teaching contempt or distrust for alternative ways of gaining sobriety. Particularly opposed is the idea of getting help in “church.”

Researcher Rober Tournier observes that A.A.’s “continued domination of the field and its members’ claims to be spokesman for the victim have fettered innovation … and tied us to a treatment strategy which … is limited in its applicability to the universe of alcoholics.” [1]

In Alcoholics Anonymous, most Christians experience a transference of faith. The twelve step experience often becomes an idol. Thus it is not uncommon to speak with Christians who are more concerned with “recovery” than sanctification; and who demonstrate a preference for A.A. rather than the fellowship with the saints.

And those who bow down and swear to the Lord, and yet swear by Milcom, (Zephaniah 1:5b)

Court cases ruling A.A., N.A. as religious
The “higher power” receives worship; confession is heard; testimony is given; the group invokes the Serenity Prayer and the Lord’s Prayer. The 12th Step instructs AA members to go forth and Spread the Word.

Whether one calls it religious, or spiritual, the bottom line is that millions have been taught to reach outside (or inside) of themselves, and draw on a higher power to give them strength.


1. Robert Tournier, quoted in Journal of Drug Issues, Volume 10, pg.150

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Cupcake god

You do what I want

you do as I say

as I re-arrange you

a little each day…

Sometimes you’re a spirit

sometimes you’re a flower

You’re my plastic, elastic

A.A. higher power.

“I am the LORD, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another, Nor My praise to graven images.” (Isaiah 42:8)
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Gospel of Christ or gospel of twelve steps?

“So it’s pretty obvious where a person’s loyalties lie by who they defend … the A.A. gospel or the gospel of Jesus …”  - -Carla, 2009

Does Christ teach what A.A. teaches?

“We found that God does not make too hard terms with those who seek Him. To us, the Realm of the Spirit is broad, roomy, all inclusive; never exclusive or forbidding to those who earnestly seek. It is open, we believe, to all men. When, therefore, we speak to you of God, we mean your own conception of God.” –From the “Big Book,” the A.A. “bible,” pg.46-47 (Bold mine)

Christ tells us: “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is BROAD that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.” (Matthew 7:13)

Yet, the A.A. Big Book (the A.A. “bible”) again makes a direct reference to this spiritual Broad Highway: “If our testimony helps sweep away prejudice, enables you to think honestly, encourages you to search diligently within yourself, then, if you wish, you can join us on the Broad Highway. With this attitude you cannot fail. The consciousness of your belief is sure to come to you.” (pg. 55) (Bold mine)

“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is BROAD that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.” (Matthew 7:13)

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