The idols of Alcoholics Anonymous

Who has fashioned a god or cast an idol to no profit? (Isaiah 44:10)

The people in A.A. are doing the best they can with what they have been taught.

This is what they are NOT taught:

For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. (1 Corinthians 15:3-5)

This is what they are NOT taught:

Jesus said to him, “I am the way and the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.” (John 14:6)

This is what A.A. people ARE taught about “god”:

[The alcoholic] “may choose to think of his Inner Self, the miracle of growth, a tree, man’s wonderment at the physical universe, the structure of the atom, or mere mathematical infinity. Whatever form is visualized, the neophyte is taught that he must rely on it and, in his own way, to pray to the Power for strength.” [1]

The above definition of “god” comes from official A.A. literature.

In A.A. one often hears about alcoholism being a “spiritual disease.” It is more accurate to see Alcoholics Anonymous as the spiritual disease, because it has pointed millions away from the Christ of the Bible, and watered down the beliefs of the Christians who have become members.

A.A. is powerful in terms of public relations, weak in terms of treatment effectiveness, and unholy in its understanding of “god.” But the A.A. people don’t know this. They are working to gain or maintain sobriety, and they are doing what they have learned to do.

Many of us are sober because of Christ. We go to church. Some of us attend Bible based fellowship groups like The Most Excellent Way. This claim that A.A. is the most effective way/only way to get sober is a lie. The sad truth is, most do not get sober through A.A. Far worse, every person who designs an A.A. higher power of their own understanding will end up in hell.

So, what can we do? Well, when we speak with out A.A. friends, we can share the gospel message. They may have never heard it before. We can do this in many ways, but let’s directly proclaim the Good News:

How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher? (Romans 10:14)

One last thought. In A.A. there are people who call “Christ” their higher power, and with some it is the biblical Christ. But Christians in A.A. rationalize that it is okay for someone to worship a higher power for a time because that person will supposedly come to Christ sooner or later. This rationalization allows the Christian to stay in A.A., for A.A. itself has become an idol.

Very few find the biblical Christ in the A.A. religion.

The Bible is clear that the times of ignorance have passed. Paul, speaking to men in a city full of idols:

“Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man.

“Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent,

because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”

Now when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some began to sneer, but others said, “We shall hear you again concerning this.”

So Paul went out of their midst.

But some men joined him and believed, among whom also were Dionysius the Areopagite and a woman named Damaris and others with them. (Acts 17:28-34)

Some sneered; some wanted to hear more; and some were saved.

But all heard. Can we do any less for our friends in Alcoholics Anonymous?

Source Notes:
1. Jack Alexander, “Alcoholics Anonymous: Freed Slaves of Drink, Now They Free Others” (Saturday Evening Post, March 1, 1941). According to the A.A. website, A.A. World Services publishes the article in pamphlet format and sells about 22,000 of them each year; http://www.aa.org/lang/en/subpage.cfm?page=472.

About the “mantle” NAR’s Chuck Pierce gave to Glenn Beck

The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is weak on doctrine and lacking in wisdom, judgment, and discernment.

For some in this movement, that is an understatement: The Grand Poohbah of the NAR, C. Peter Wagner, holds to open theism. This is the belief that God might not have absolute foreknowledge of all things. [1] Apparently there are a few in the apostolic movement who “hold to the doctrine of Oneness,” and Wagner is okay with these (heretics) who reject Trinitarian understanding. [2]

From Bethel Redding leader Bill Johnson’s acceptance of kenosis to IHOP-KC’s Mike Bickle’s promotion of contemplative prayer, the New Apostolic Reformation leaders have brought much error into the church.

This brings us to NAR “prophet” Chuck Pierce, who ceremonially gave a mantle to Glenn Beck, a Mormon.

According to Holly Pivec, “So when Pierce presented a mantle to Beck, people in the audience–who regard Pierce as a prophet–understood that their prophet was conferring some type of prophetic status on Beck. This should trouble Christians. Why? Because a leading prophet in the NAR is recognizing a member of the Mormon church–a cult of Christianity, which rejects essential doctrines of the Christian faith– as a true messenger of God. A true prophet of God would do no such thing.” [3] (Read)

The reach and influence of the NAR is vast, and often unrecognized. In GOD’S SUPER-APOSTLES, authors Pivec and Geivett note, “In short, NAR is a global movement with an agenda to bring back apostles and prophets to the church–apostles like Peter and Paul and prophets like Moses and Elijah. NAR leaders claim that God always intended for apostles and prophets to rule the church…” [4]

The NAR is powerful, and thankfully does not rule the entire Body of Christ. But what have NAR leaders brought us? False eschatology, false visions, contemplative prayer (IHOP-KC and Bethel Redding), twisted doctrine, introduction to quantum mysticism (Bill Johson, Mark Chironna), occult Kabbalah (Pierce), and mantles to nowhere.

Bonus: What is Kabbalah ?: http://www.gotquestions.org/Kabbalah.html

Source Notes:
1. C. Peter Wagner, The Changing Church: How God is leading His Church into the future, pg. 154
2. Ibid., pg. 157
3. http://www.spiritoferror.org/2015/03/nar-prophet-chuck-pierce-gives-mantle-to-mormon-glenn-beck/5337
4.  R. Douglass Geivett and Holly Pivec, GOD’S SUPER-APOSTLES, pg.4

A.A. co-founder knew Christians would see his view of Christ as “terrific heresy”

According to A.A. co-founder Bill Wilson, “Christ is, of course, the leading figure to me. Yet I have never been able to receive complete assurance that He was one hundred per cent God. I seem to be just as comfortable with the figure of ninety-nine per cent. I know that from a conservative Christian point of view this is a terrific heresy.” [1]

Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.” (John 8:58)

Keep Bill Wilson’s admission in mind when pro-A.A. authors like Dick B. and Ken B. try and cast Wilson as a Christian, and A.A. as Christian in origin.

Source Notes:
1. Mel B., My Search For Bill W., pg. 21 ( from a letter dated July 2, 1956 from A.A. co-founder Bill Wilson to Mel B.)

At least this hasn’t happened yet…

So much deception pouring into the Body of Christ. Contemplative prayer. False apostles and prophets. Hellish “Bibles.” Homo-spirituality. But, at least we aren’t placing Christ alongside pagan gods just yet.

Oh. Wait a minute...

Kris Vallotton and the “Mantle of Jesus Christ” / Bill Johnson on Corporate Anointing

Originally posted on CrossWise:

“…Not just the mantle of William Branham, how about the mantle of Jesus Christ?  That’s even a bigger one there…”

- Kris Vallotton, August 15, 2010

Kris Vallotton is Senior Associate Pastor of Bethel Church in Redding, California under Senior Pastor Bill Johnson.  The above quote of Vallotton follows an August 15, 2010 sermon of Bill Johnson titled, “The Real Jesus” (with complete context below).  Johnson had just spoken of his desire for a “corporate anointing” and Vallotton was making a few comments after this sermon.  The following YouTube video1 captures both Johnson and Vallotton (my understanding is this video is available at www.ibethel.tv if one registers at the site):

Here’s a portion of Johnson’s “word”:

“…Here’s what I’m believing for – I know it’s never happened; but, I know that it must before the end.  There must be, not just individuals – I’m thankful we have individuals…

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Elijah List speaker helps folks “understand their dreams, tattoos and piercings”…?

So Samuel did what the LORD said, and came to Bethlehem. And the elders of the city came trembling to meet him and said, “Do you come in peace?” (1 Samuel 16:4)

Unlike the elders who stood before Samuel the prophet, there will be no trembling when Doug Addison speaks at the upcoming Canadian Elijah List Conference–unless, that is, it comes from those trembling with laughter.

According to the Elijah List promo, Doug Addison “brings laughter, fun, and a unique prophetic style while empowering people to transform their lives, discover their destiny and understand their dreams, tattoos and piercings.” [1]

Addison is a “prophetic dream interpreter, speaker, writer, Life Coach, and stand-up comedian. His high energy prophetic messages have been shared on television, radio and the internet for over a decade.” [2]

In addition to Addison, the May 2015 Conference will feature Elijah List founder Steve Shultz, Patricia Bootsma, Darren Canning, and Joe and Bella Garcia.

The stated purpose of these regional Elijah List conferences is to bring “some of the best prophetic voices out there to encourage you in what God is saying for this year for your region and for the Body of Christ.” [3] (italics mine)

The God of the Bible is not saying anything through the dreams/piercings/tattoo interpretation of Doug Addison. Neither is he speaking through Steve Shultz, Chuck Pierce, Bill Johnson, Jonathan Welton, or many, many others.

True prophets like Samuel, Jeremiah, and Isaiah would probably be kicked out of places like Bethel Redding and the Elijah List conferences. No comedy from these Old Testament giants. Some biting satire, perhaps, but no amusing anecdotes.

I can’t see Bethel Redding leadership tolerating hard Truth. Not from men of God. Not from the Word of God. This video is an example of Bethel’s understanding of the prophetic–these are pleasing and pleasant popcorn “prophecies” popping up all over the place.

We are at the point where missionaries are needed for entire segments of the visible church. We have many who treat the House of God as if it were a circus.

Who say to the seers, “You must not see visions”;
And to the prophets, “You must not prophesy to us what is right,
Speak to us pleasant words,
Prophesy illusions.
“Get out of the way, turn aside from the path,
Let us hear no more about the Holy One of Israel.” (Isaiah 30:10-11)

“But to this one I will look,
To him who is humble and contrite of spirit,
and who trembles at My word. (Isaiah 66:2b)

Source Notes:
1. http://www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word.html?ID=14428
2. Ibid.
3. Ibid.

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Jonathan Welton’s gift of discernment of…human spirits?

Then Elisha prayed and said, “O LORD, I pray, open his eyes that he may see.” And the LORD opened the servant’s eyes and he saw; and behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha. (2 Kings 6:17)

Jonathan Welton is one of the contributors (along with Bill and Beni Johnson) to The Physics of Heaven, a book which seemingly serves as a roadmap to Christian entanglement with the New Age and Quantum mysticism.

While writing a booklet concerning The Physics of Heaven, I was fascinated to learn Jonathan Welton states, “I have found throughout Scripture at least 75 examples of things that the New Age has counterfeited, such as having a spirit guide, trances, meditation, auras, power objects, clairvoyance, clairaudience, and more. These actually belong to the church, but they have been stolen and cleverly repackaged.” [1]

Incredibly, Welton believes, “We need to begin to use [New Age] counterfeits as signposts. Every time a counterfeit shows up, take it as the Lord presenting you with an opportunity to reclaim . . . the Church’s stolen property.” [2]

This is an astounding lack of spiritual discernment.

And so, several days ago, I stumbled across this video, in which Welton has cast himself in the role of teaching discernment of spirits to others. Here are a few choice excerpts from the video:

Jonathan Welton has been described as a Seer, which Welton himself defines as “a high level prophetic individual who operates at a high level of discerning of spirits.” (4:50 in video)

Welton claims he can discern angelic, demonic, and even human spirits. “I can discern your spirit,” he tells host Sid Roth, and “peoples’ spirits in stores and in the streets.” (4:00 in video)

It’s Supernatural with Sid Roth has featured many biblically questionable individuals over the years. Roth seems particularly excited to have Welton on the show. Looking into the camera, Roth exudes, “After spending thirty days in the spirit realm, I want you to meet a man who can now switch on the ability to see into the invisible world.” (Beginning of video)

Then, Roth adds, “Learn how he uses this gift for emotional and physical healing and how he teaches others to turn on this gift.”

Teaches others to see into the spirit world?

Welton recounts how when he received his…gift…he saw fully into the spirit world for 30 days. He could see serpents “wrapped around certain buildings” and “demonic beings on top of certain buildings.” (5:00 in video)

Welton states he could spiritually discern, “If I went into a store I’d see objects stuck in people at times–swords, spears, arrows–and I didn’t understand what I was seeing.” (5:45)

In a worship service he could “see angels crying.” (5:57)

He can even tell which people walking down the street are Christians or unsaved! (6:33)

Then, after thirty days, this intense, constant experience stopped. Welton says the Lord told him, “In those thirty days I turned the gift on full blast so you would experience the full potential of this gift.” (start at 7:40)

This was because the Lord “wanted to teach me how to stir it up, how to activate it, how to turn it on and turn it off. (7:53)

Sid Roth looks into the camera: “The fact that he knows how to turn it on and turn the gift off–and he can mentor you…” (8:43)

Welton also reveals that he sees words over people, and sometimes written words in an object that is stuck in a person… (11:13)

He gives the example of a sword stuck in a woman’s back.

The Lord taught him “these objects had to do with physical healings.” Welton quotes Proverbs 12:18, and describes a lady who “looked like a pincushion, she had spears in the spirit that were sticking out in every direction about 8 to 10 feet and on each spear it had a word. It had fear, it had rejection, unforgiveness, bitterness…” (11:48)

Roth says the Welton seems to have seen in the spiritual what was happening in the physical. Welton readily agrees.

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I don’t know Welton, who comes across as likeable and sincere. But this is not good. Not good at all. This is not the biblical gift of discernment of spirits.

Source Notes:
1. Jonathan Welton, Kindle location: 808
2. Ibid.

False Prophets and Teachers

mywordlikefire:

If you read the entire article, not just the beginning portion you see on MWLF, you will discover a blog where Christ is lifted up, and His people are reminded of the importance of the Word.

Originally posted on Following Jesus Christ:

                                     FALSE PROPHETS AND TEACHERS

“God is light. In him there is no darkness at all.” (1John 1:5b)

“See to it, then, that the light within you isn’t darkness.”(Luke 11:35)

“A wicked and adulterous generation seeks a sign. “ (Matthew 12:39)

“…I hate every false way.” (Psalm 119:128b)

 “…Do not rejoice that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice that your names are written in heaven.” (Luke 10:20)     

“Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.” (Ephesians 5:11)

“We demolish…every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God….” (2 Cor. 10:5a)

In Acts 20:29-35, Paul warns believers that, after he departs, ravenous wolves will come among them, not sparing the flock. Even from amongst the brethren,  evil men will…

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Brian Head Welch and Todd Bentley–Calvary Chapel says, “He’s Not Backing Those Dudes”–Really?

mywordlikefire:

The Last Hiker gives much credit to S. Walker (Psalm86 channel on YouTube) for her investigation in all this. You can see her videos in this article. Great work by The Last Hiker and S. Walker. Walker also has a blog, http://www.reflectionsfromthewall.net/.

I would like to add that there are still some great Calvary Chapel pastors out there–CC Costa Mesa Pastor Brian Brodersen’s wrong does does not mean that all CC pastors share in this wrong. No, I am not saying CC does not have some big time problems.

Originally posted on The Last Hiker:

Todd Bentley posted this on his Instagram on January 14, 2015

This blog is just an update on something I wrote back in November called, “Calvary Chapel–Is The Church Tolerating the Sin of Balaam and Jezebel.” It was about the ungodliness within the Whosoever movement, and how no one at Calvary Chapel would  answer my question–why are the Whosoevers being allowed to promote wickedness in their evangelistic efforts? During this time there was also a video called “The Whosoevers Exposed” that was being widely circulated. Many people were looking for answers. I was not alone.

Well, on November 14, 2014, Brian Brodersen (senior pastor of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa) had Ryan Ries on a daily radio show on KWVE, called “Pastor’s Perspective,” to discuss the Whosoever movement, and respond to some of the objections people have to the ministry. You can listen to that program here

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More A.A. Fun Facts: A.A.’s pagan symbol

Where did the A.A. symbol come from? Why did A.A. co-founder Bill Wilson choose the triangle within the circle?

In Alcoholics Anonymous Comes Of Age, he writes, “That we have chosen this symbol is perhaps no mere accident. The priests and seers of antiquity regarded the circle enclosing the triangle as a means of warding off spirits of evil, and AA’s circle of Recovery, Unity, and Service has certainly meant all that to us and much more.” (Alcoholics Anonymous Comes Of Age, pg.139, Bold mine)

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